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The Grand Canyon Boaters' List has several purposes:
This list is intended for private boaters, commercial guides and outfitters, National Park Service personnel, and people who love the Canyon. But please note the following guidelines:
Impolite behavior and flaming are strongly discouraged. The temptation for unpleasant words most frequently comes up in discussions of the politics of access to the Grand Canyon, but harsh words in any context are suspect. Direct and personal verbal attacks are grounds for immediate removal from the list, regardless of topic and regardless of provocation. The list is partially moderated -- spam, flames, email viruses, posts contrary to list rules, and other dementia may not be forwarded to the list.
There are a number of political issues concerning the Grand Canyon. People come down on different sides in these issues, and sometimes they have very strong feelings. The gcboaters list is NOT a good place to stand and shout at your political opponents. Polite discussions of Grand Canyon politics are OK, but there are other lists you should use if that is a primary concern, in particular the firstname.lastname@example.org list. Subscription information for riveraccess is at the bottom of this page.
This list is not intended for advertising of commercial river trips in the Grand Canyon. (A List of Commerical Outfitters is available on the Grand Canyon River Running site, and information on commercial trips can be obtained by calling the river office at Grand Canyon National Park, 1-800-959-9164.)
However, information about private equipment for sale or trade is OK and encouraged. Ads may also be submitted to the GCBoaters Classified Ads. You can fill out our online form to submit an ad, as well.
More important, this list is definitely not to be used for private permit holders to sell spaces on their trips. This is against National Park Service (NPS) policy and rules. Breaking this rule would damage one of the most valuable uses of this list, so this rule is strictly enforced. Subscribers interested in arranging trips through this list should be familiar with all applicable National Park Service (NPS) rules and regulations regarding non-commercial river running in the Grand Canyon. The list and its logs are available to the NPS for use in the regulation of non-commercial river running and the enforcement of federal law.
If you are new to Internet mail lists the process can be a little confusing, so we describe the steps in considerable detail. If this kind of stuff is unfamiliar to you it is probably worth reading over the following steps fairly carefully. According to the logs about a quarter of the subscription attempts fail; if you don't receive email from "majordomo" something went wrong, and you should carefully check back through what you did, and try again, if necessary.
Important Note: Many people use email software that will send HTML versions of their messages. Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, and Netscape Communicator, among others, will send their messages as HTML. This causes problems for message recipients who are not using this software. Perhaps more importantly, HTML will cause problems with Majordomo. Please configure your email software to not send HTML to gcboaters.
In Netscape Communicator, go to Edit -> Preferences -> Mail&Newsgroups -> Formatting, and select
"Use the plain text editor to compose messages"and
"Ask me what to do if the message has HTML formatting, otherwise send plain text"
In Microsoft Outlook, go to Tools Menu -> Options -> Mail Format Tab -> In the Message Format drop-down box, select "Plain Text".
Note that the above change will also remove the "winmail.dat" attachements, which will cause majordomo to choke, as well...
Further discussion of how to deal with this problem can be found here.
AOL users may have a special problem -- we've never tried the following recipe, but it may work for you:
How to send plain text from AOL V6.0: ===================================== 1. Make sure your font is set to Arial 10, the AOL default. 2. Create a message using only default Arial 10 type. Any quoted text pasted in from another message must also be in Arial 10 type (no bold, other sizes or colors). Note: if you paste a message that was received in HTML format, it will probably cause you to send in HTML. 3. Hit Control-A to highlight the entire message. 4. Right click anywhere in the message itself: A 'popup menu' will appear. Move the cursor to "text" and another menu will appear. Move the cursor to "normal" and click on it. 5. Send the message.
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Another very interesting list hosted by hydrosphere.com is the rivers list. It is low volume, but has occasional fascinating discussions of hydrology, ecology, and other scientific and technical aspects of rivers. Subscribe as you do to "riveraccess", except substitute "rivers" for "riveraccess".
Updated: January 17, 2000